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Charles T. Sherman to Lewis Allen Alderson

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Dayton Ohio June 20-1831


Dear Sir


Yours of the [27] ult. was received a few days before I started upon a journey for the North, or else it would have been answered long ago – Business partly, and improvement of my health called me up in the Sandusky Country, as far as Portland and I did not return untill this morning – It was a long and rough journey but I never spent my time with more pleasure, and more instruction, - It is a new country, and very thinly settled full of Indians, and consequently plenty of jolly & uncouth fellows to amuse oneself with – I passed over the ground where Crawford was defeated, and saw the ground where he was tortured & burnt  I also visited Fort [Mergs] Fort [XXXXX] and other places of notoriety during the last war – The Indians own large quantities yet of the best land in that part of the country and an Agent is treating with them on the part [W.S.] to remove beyond the Missippi – most of the tribes have already made treaties and are preparing to so move, and I have no


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doubt the rest will before the end of the summer  I accidently was present at a counsil, and heard some fine specemins of Indians eloquence – From my observation of the situation & condition of the Indians of this state, and what I learned of the views of the government in relations to them I have become convinced of the propriety & expedience of moving them – They are as miserable set of people as are on the face of the globe, and it is not probable that they will ever adopt the habits of civilized life – the experiment has tried and has tottally failed – About one half profess to be Christians who drink three times the quantity of whiskey that the savages do, and lie & cheat worse than any Yankee or old deacon you ever knew – while the others, (called savages,) in their sober moments are fair & honorable in all their dealings, and are trusted in & confided by the whites – They are all of them half the year in a state of starvation, which with their intemperate habits causes annually the death of a great many – If their removal is not soon effected their [XXXXX] will soon become extinct in this state – I have conversed with a gentleman who has visited the country to which they are about to remove, and he represents it to be finely adapted to their habits and modes of  living –


I suppose that pretty little thing which L—y is to make for me will not spoil by long coming so it is no use to be in a hurry about it – And if it never comes it will not break any heart, for I have no claim right


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title or interest in that [quarter] these days, having surrendered it to a certain prison last winter  I was some what surprised to hear that I was “not yet forgotten in Athens” for to tell the truth I desurved in some degree to forgotten – I cannot understand the reason why they should say that I had forgotten Athens for I think of them very often, and whenever I meet with a citizen of the queen of the Hills I pay him all the attention in my power yet at the same time I say that I wish I had never seen the place. – How many beaus has Lucy got now adays, and who is the favorite?


Your journey must have been in some degree pleasant this spring by meeting so many accquantances in whatever town you visited – yet you say that the people are unsociable – That is true as it regards the people of this state – they are not so hospitable, and friendly to strangers as some others, but when you become intimate with them – they are well enough.  You must not have such a predujice against [XXXXX] Kinyon – there are plenty of Colleges that are worse [XXXXX] than that – for instance Athens – and that you will find out before you graduate – The last year is the time to try a fellow meekness of sprit, and attachment to a college – People preach about the time that we spend in college is the most pleasant and that we enjoy more happiness then than afterwards If I am not to be happier than when I was in College I want to live no longer – But this saying has been falsified in my own experience – To mingle with the world even if it is cold & heartless, to meet & encounter rough times, and enjoy those that are smoother, is pleasure, is happiness compared to be cooped up for weeks & months in such a place as the O. N. and meet with the frowns the neglect of a hyprocritical, partial, & time surving Faculty


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I have heard two things which has much surprised – that is that Garvis has left the place, not to return – if true it is the best thing he could do – the other is that Wm Creed is the orator of the [XXXXX]  Was there no quarreling on the occassion, and how did you unite upon one? – Send me a copy of the oration if printed & the preceeding & toasts – Tell Arbuckle, if he remembers me on the fourth over a glass of Old Barneys best wine, or even whiskey I’ll do the same to him – Tell him also if he is one of the committee of [Arang] not to permit Jackson, [XXXXX] masonry, to be toasted nor foolish toasts to women as last year – nor must he pay such respect to the feelings of temperance people but drink brandy & whiskey if any choose it –


Mr. L. A. Alderson




Give my respects to Arbuckle Crugh Osborn & Buck and all others that inquire of me –


Write soon – Yours &c &c

C T Sherman


Lewis A Alderson Esq -



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